Senator Bernie Sanders and Representive Deutch(D-Fla) push a New Amendment to Take Away Personhood from Corporations | AlterNet

Not only were they given person-hood but, also the advantage of a double citizenship. They had rights as citizens and a second citizen right-hood in as a corporate leader. That is double the power of other citizens. Supreme Court that is some fuzzy math.

Not only do we need to save our democracy with new amendment, we also need enforcement of the ones we already have.

I completely support this.

Me too. If OWS had a role in this, congratulations!

This is long past due. Corporations have all the benefits of citizenship without any of the responsibility. I'd vote for Bernie over Obama any day.

American citizen taxpayers should know the horrible harm that the US Chamber of Commerce does to ALL OF US with their lobbying support of Corporations.

I hope Bernie gets overwhelming CITIZEN support....enough to squelch the Republican mantra of Corporation Sainthood.

Common Sense tells you that was a very bad decision.

Join the list of co-signers. Sign here if you support a constitutional amendment that would overturn the Citizens United decision.

Go to his website and sign the petition in support of his Amendment please.

http://sanders.senate.gov/savingdemocracy

HarryDunne - care to explain what you are against in this amendment or did you want to continue posting statements with no value to this discussion?

Hell maybe even a couple thousand!

It's over 100,000 at this point

how much does Koch pay you harry ?

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Please explain this communim theme ....

No one could come up with that kind of personal attack unlkess they had verifiable proof.

You do have that....don't you?

Bring back government of, for, by people.

Signed "The Saving American Democracy Amendment" petition.

This is greatest crusade of our time. Arrayed before us are armies of mightiest empires in history. Their claws dig deep into hearts of nations across world.

All we have to fight them are our courage, unity, ingenuity.

If they had a snowball's chance in hell of this passing, it would be the best and most important move America could make to save itself from the mudslide into the abyss that's its caught in now towards fascism.

Corporations may not make campaign contributions.

This becomes a "Hey wait a minute" moment for Democrats who depend on that kind of support. Is the democrat going to hold that same standard for unions? Does that mean that Democrats will give back the monies they have recieved so far? The concern is that coprorations may spend endless amounts of money right? But here is the funny part: Who spends the most money

Organization Total '89-'12 Dem % Repub % Tilt
1 ActBlue $57,214,592 99% 0%

A PAC allowing individuals and groups to channel their progressive dollars to candidates and movements of their choosing.
actblue.com

ActBlue is a United States political committee established in June 2004 that enables anyone to fundraise on the Internet for the Democratic Party candidates of their choice.

ActBlue has grown quickly to become a major fundraising tool for Democrats, particularly favored by the netroots and left-leaning bloggers.[1] As of December 2010, ActBlue had raised more than $170 million USD for Democratic candidates at various levels of politics, making it the largest single source of funds for Democrats. The organization is open to all registered Democratic campaigns and candidates, and it does not take a cut

So are the Democrats going to address the issue of ACT BLUE...dare I say, NO!.

Top Industries of Obama Bundlers Industry Min. Raised # of Bundlers

Lawyers/Law Firms $9,900,000 78
Securities & Investment $9,400,000 62
Business Services $5,950,000 31
Real Estate $5,050,000 27
TV/Movies/Music $4,150,000 15

opensecrets.org

What about lobbyists, are they going to take away that mony also and not allow those donations?

Recipient From Lobbyists From Lobbyists' Family Members
Harry Reid (D-Nev) $943,388 $1,043,738
Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark) $647,988 $720,438
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY) $616,093 $666,243
Rob Portman (R-Ohio) $548,174 $637,524
Patty Murray (D-Wash) $472,096 $514,495
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) $389,586 $427,586
Roy Blunt (R-Mo) $377,790 $468,940
Kendrick B. Meek (D-Fla) $350,072 $371,772
Richard Burr (R-NC) $330,686 $373,867
Michael F. Bennet (D-Colo) $317,909 $354,508
Lisa Murkowski (I-Alaska) $314,505 $359,655
Barbara Boxer (D-Calif) $274,302 $304,002
Daniel K. Inouye (D-Hawaii) $270,993 $298,043
Steny H. Hoyer (D-Md) $251,878 $269,228
Patrick Leahy (D-Vt) $236,050 $253,450

opensecrets.org

Of the top 15 recieving lobbyist monies 3 are Republicans, so lets break down the analysis. This with the majority of the monies from lobbyists coming from those who donate to Democrats...So lets be real The Democrat is not going to give up this money. Lets look at the 4 issues listed. No one here is trying do you a favor lets break this down:

1. Corporations are not persons with constitutional rights equal to real people.

2. Corporations are subject to regulation by the people.

3. Corporations may not make campaign contributions.

4. Congress and states have the power to regulate campaign finances.

1. What they want you to believe is that a corporation functions without people, no not really but they dont, that means they become like a union,

the union needs the corporation, but the corporation doesnt need the union.

So what do you do you take the ability of the corporation to protect itself, but not the unions. Here in lies the big question are the Democrats going to hold Unions to the same standard as a corporation?

2. Will unions also be held to that standard, and when they say by the people do they mean you and I or Maxines Watters? who like most Democrats will then use this to control corporations and put more money in the coffers of the democrats and tax the profitability of corporations mking more companies go overseas. The will make coprorations slave to the goverment.

3. Corporations make large contributions and as shown the Democrats get a lionshare of the monies. What this would mean is that if Democrats under the guise of regulation by the people(see no. 2)the Democrat must regulate Businesses and force all employees to beccome union memebers so that the unions or act blue, the largest donor to presidential campaigns can take that money and hand it over to the Democrats.

4. This item is about keeping states that are democrat from having the bility to vote otherwise. This is what the democrat needed before civil rights so that States like Texas, Arkansas, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, Florida, would have never been able to become Repunblican.

This list is about controlling the corporations, controlling their money in political campaigns, allowing unions to grab the power from corporations who wish to stay in America and operate, and control the states so that Republicans will be not able to grab a foot hold in Democrat States and not get funding, or other political monies and there is one question that answers or proves this point:

Will the Unions be held to the same standards? So for organizations like ACT Blue and Unions is there any addreesing to these goups in this ammendment? And the answer is NO!

Bernie sanders has not saved America with this idea he has sold out America, thanks Bernie "Vidkun Quisling" Sanders ( Min havde til norske amerikanere). Thanks for nothing Bernie, your just going to send more jobs oversees, as unions and the socialist gain more control to squeeze republicans out of office and states.

So, your point provides more of a reason that we have this amendment to the constitution.

We need to clean up our institutions and the first is by removing unlimited money from the legislative process - nobody gives you money (or the third-party group that doesn't necessarily have any connection with an elected official but really does) because they like you, they give because they want something done.

And it's not just the elections but the legislative process that has turned into a process of what votes (elections as well as senate and house votes) I can buy.

I don't mind companies and organizations that want to advertise their position, or even being part of the legislative process - like hearings and meetings. I just want it documented - you know, transparent.

The real issue is that our government is more influenced by corporations and organizations, rather than by the people who elect them.

So it is really us that need to stop voting for the incumbents and start sending a message to these corporations and organizations that your money is being wasted because we will determine who is in office and who isn't.

The amendment is a good first step, but we need more oversight and transparency over the senate and house while they are in session.

Harry:

Do you own any stocks of companies doing business with China ?? Do you buy products made in China ??

Do you buy things made in Vietnam ?? Do you own stocks of companies who do business in Vietnam ??

Because if so you are supporting Communist governments and companies who help them to thrive !!!

BTW: I hate Communism. Many of my brothers in arms fought against it in Nam. You know how many of them died in vain ?? All of them because we trade with the Communist bastards today !!!

So go on with your bad self about corporations being equal to private citizens. Corporations are business entities run by people, some of them are not American citizens. So should they have the right to make laws that affect American citizens ?? Not at all !!!

When you say you are a capitalist. Does that mean that money is your goal, and the attaining the mobney you want should be done at any price ??

Because Capitalism unfettered is pure greed. I saw enough blood spilt for the greed of Capitalists in Nam.

I'm with ya Bernie. Screw the Fascist Pigs who live for greed and corporatism !!!

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Then by your own admission you choose to support Communism if it makes you money.

You have been shown for what you actually believe.

Money over people.

Until this bill addresses Unions and other groups like ACTBLUE and how they donate, then this not a bill that is doing the best for our country, it just the democrat looking to block channels of funding for the democrat. This is the Democrat using their sphere of influence to write a bill that blocks other parties from receiving funding. Nothing more is accomplished. Now if the bill says that only individuals can donate from their own personal accounts to a limit of say 100 dollars and no more and no, and I repeat no organization can donate then we meight be on to something, but watch when asked if unions are excluded, if asked at all, Bernie Sanders will avoid answering, cause he cant say no usless he lies.